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lino1. 12. 2015 18:50:59
I join the other commentators' opinion. Really big congrats to both for this insanely brave ascent and extra congrats to Uroš for the anniversary. Good luck ahead! Lp!
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ločanka1. 12. 2015 18:57:50
Redbull, with Anja you would make a good pair!
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Maemi1. 12. 2015 20:28:40
Redbull is a very wonderful guy, all those who despise him please stop humiliating him in future. He has his own life path, just like all others.
ločanka, I hope maybe we do some ascent this winter and he safely returns to his beautiful girlfriend nasmeh
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vzpon1. 12. 2015 20:30:04
Dejan, congrats. I hope we do this tour together sometime. Lp, Stojan. mežikanje
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mornar1. 12. 2015 21:51:33
dejan, all congrats for the ascent, hats off as Katanec said. I wish you many similar feats and also I would express the wish if next year you take me to Mrzla gora safely.
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lijaneja1. 12. 2015 21:53:49
Stojan, if you're just ¨average¨ hiker, after 200m from common start you'll see only his shadow!velik nasmeh
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mailman2. 12. 2015 06:49:40
Yeah, if the sun shines from the right side, if not, he'll at most see tracks!velik nasmehjezik
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dragon2. 12. 2015 21:01:22
Triglav, and south wind blasting, really don't go together. What would Aljaž think about thiszmeden
Otherwise bravo.
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redbull4. 12. 2015 12:46:23
A bit late, dragon.

It fits, Triglav is closely connected to the south, without ''southerner'' Mihajlo Pupin, Triglav would have gone to Italy in 1919, as well as most of the Upper Sava Valley.


Search the net, you'll find a lot.


''The esteemed scientist was appointed honorary consul of Serbia in the USA in 1912, a duty he performed until 1920. During that time he did a lot to establish interstate and other contacts between Serbia and later Yugoslavia and America. His greatest contribution was in creating Yugoslavia as a common state of South Slavs and determining its borders, some of which still apply in its current successors. After the end of WWI, in 1919 during peace negotiations, at the invitation of the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes which was only a few months old, he spent two months in Paris, where at a key moment he used his personal acquaintance with the then 28th US President Thomas Woodrow Wilson, a university classmate. When it came to the borders of the young state, Pupin gathered data on historical and ethnic characteristics of border areas of Dalmatia, Istria, Slovenia, Banat, Međimurje and Prekmurje, Baranja and Macedonia and sent a personal memorandum to the US president on April 19, 1919. Just three days after receiving this letter, Wilson stated that the USA do not recognize the London Pact, with which the Allies promised Italy in 1915 that after the war it gets Trentino, South Tyrol to Brenner, Gorizia, Gradisca, Trieste, Val Canale, southwest Carniola, Istria, Cres, Lošinj and many other islands up to Mljet.

The Allies of course considered the opinion of the big brother across the Atlantic and drew the Italian-Yugoslav border so that Bohinj, Bled, a large part of the Julian Alps with Triglav and the Triglav Lakes Valley and Upper Sava Valley remained, also Kranjska Gora, Dovje, Gorje and Ribno as well as Bohinjska Srednja vas and Bohinjska Bistrica in Slovenia. When Dr. Dušan Ribarž, member of the SHS delegation, learned of this decision, he reportedly cried with joy. To repay the patriot Pupin at least a little, two years later he proposed him for honorary citizen of Bled. In the minutes of the 10th municipal meeting on September 20, 1921 in Bled it is written that they appointed university professor M. I. Pupin as honorary citizen of the Bled municipality, »who has the greatest merits that Bled and Bohinj remained in their state«.

Honorary citizen

For years, the only material memory of Pupin in Bled was the so-called Pupin House in Zaka, built by a Croatian couple, and instead of the owners' names on the wooden plaque at the entrance it said Pupin House. Time has destroyed it, in its place a Viennese couple built a brick house without Pupin's name.

In the Bled Collection for the 1000th anniversary of Bled in 2004, Božo Benedik listed Dr. Mihajlo Pupin among the honorary citizens of the place, »who due to merits for Bled and the Jesenice triangle in negotiations on the peace treaty between Italy and the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes they planned to erect a memorial plaque in Zaka, but the initiative died. Only the Pupin hut in Mala Zaka remained.«

In 2008, then president of the Alpine Association of Slovenia Franc Ekar wanted to revive the memory of the patriot after decades. He sent a letter to the then presidents of the Slovenian state and government with a proposal to erect a memorial somewhere in Gorenjska, perhaps in Bled, for this Serbian-American scientist and Bled honorary citizen. »At the end of this year's celebrations of the 230th anniversary of the first ascent to Triglav, we mountaineers have often thought in which country the peak of this mountain would be now, if the world citizen Mihajlo Pupin had not advocated with the US president for the already almost determined state border between Italy and Yugoslavia after WWI,« wrote Ekar. »Besides Jakob Aljaž, Pupin is most deserving that Triglav remained Slovenian.« He received no response to this letter.

Perhaps we Slovenes will remember by the end of next year on the 160th anniversary of Pupin's birth with a monument the man to whom thanks go for a large part of the Julian Alps and valleys below them being Slovenian.

When they draw the new border in the coming days, Slovenes would certainly need a new – Pupin too.

Who was Pupin?

Mihajlo Idvorski Pupin (born October 4, 1854 in Idvor in Serbian Banat, died March 12, 1935 in New York) at age 15 left high school in Pančevo, where Slovenian professor Kos inspired him for natural sciences. From Prague he went to America, where during studies he survived by working on farms and in factories, in New York Slovenian greengrocer Lukanič financially helped him, which Pupin never forgot. The talented student was sent by Columbia University in New York to study physics in Cambridge and Berlin, where he earned his PhD in 1891. Upon return to Columbia he was promoted to Doctor of Science in 1904 and taught electromechanics there until retirement in 1930. He was a member of the French Academy of Sciences, Serbian Royal Academy, president of the New York Academy of Sciences and honorary doctor of 18 universities. In the USA, Kingdom of Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia and France he received a series of high awards ...'' and so on.
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sirt14. 12. 2015 14:10:55
You red bk- are worthy of your name! If Italy got only what was promised to her (per your notes) 1915 Slovenes would be very happy! But she got all that and apparently after Pupin's intervention, also territory between Val Canale and Triglav, entire Soča region, Cerkno, Idrija!
If it stayed at promised, Julian Alps would be entirely in Slovenia, since they end above Val Canale!
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redbull4. 12. 2015 14:59:26
Here one could discover some hot water
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lino4. 12. 2015 17:15:00
Sirt1, nothing to it, we learn all our life. When there was a lecture in school about this part of the history of our Father Triglav, I probably skipped class.
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dragon4. 12. 2015 20:56:34
I respect Mihajlo Pupin for everything he did for Slovenia. A month or two ago he also got his monument in Bled, which you forgot to mention. But that because of his merits we should listen to foreign music in Slovenian hills, that's a bit too much.
When I come to a hut and hear foreign songs, I kind of lose my appetite and go on. But recently I really enjoyed the Litostroj Hut on Soriska Planina, where with folk music sounds and fluttering Slovenian flag I felt my homeland, as you can probably feel it only in the mountains. And as for music, Slovenian folk or folk entertainment music belongs here.
Otherwise I prefer rock and metal more, but hills have their own storynasmeh
Best regards
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jax4. 12. 2015 21:02:00
Oh no, that's a terrible simplification of the essence of Slovenianness. To me the rock band at Okrešelj is by far the most sympathetic. It's been said for years they'll replace them, but they persist ...
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miri6. 12. 2015 11:46:58
Whoever knows, will have read it.velik nasmeh
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miri6. 12. 2015 11:46:58
Whoever knows, will have read it.velik nasmeh
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lino6. 12. 2015 16:00:24
Miri, how nice of you. Whoever knows, will have read it already, the others just take pictures. Good thing you didn't send it in Arabic.
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viharnik6. 12. 2015 16:28:30
We are still the last generation who learned Cyrillic in primary school Slovenian and knew it well back then. Tito's picture hung in classrooms, we had Tito caps with a star and waved to the black limousine with Tito when he drove through old Prušnikova in Šentvid. After his death no one wanted to hear much about him anymore, pictures removed, communism weakened. The story back then was that I deliberately learned Cyrillic best in class and read it fluently the only one. Classmates wondered at me and mocked me at the same time, like where are you from, are you Albanian, Montenegrin, fuck you eekzmedenzavijanje z očmi?!. Class all in laughter with the prof toovelik nasmehvelik nasmehvelik nasmeh
Croatian language gets a five!, Franc Rozman Stane - Šentvid1
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miri6. 12. 2015 16:33:06
@lino, here's the translation and Latin script.
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lino6. 12. 2015 16:49:31
Miri, that's a rare virtue. Not only translation from Cyrillic to Latin, but even recording in Slovenian. Thanks, probably also on behalf of someone else not skilled in Cyrillic.
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