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| panda6. 07. 2010 09:00:13 |
Grammatically horrible, rhetorically too. You gave the answer yourself, during the week better. What else did you want to ask, can't figure it out (my personal opinion). LP
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| Mate076. 07. 2010 09:26:42 |
"Grammatically horrible, rhetorically too".
Some of you are obsessed with these errors; this is a forum, not writing an article. Just look at 24ur, how they write, like a 5-year-old child.
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| lynx6. 07. 2010 10:13:32 |
Referring to other illiterates won't help you and the basic problem remains the same - if the asked question is incomprehensible, no one can answer you, even if they wanted to.
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| šodrovec6. 07. 2010 10:15:01 |
About differences in writing quality between five-year-olds and seven-year-olds I'd rather not here - although, studies show that seven-year-olds are usually a bit more educated ... 
During the week, no dilemma! Still count on having to meet people and don't fear it. Simply always wait at a place where you can hold well and at the same time step aside - experienced ones will understand your position and pass nicely. Due to such - safe avoiding you might spend a minute or so more to the summit and back, although it's true you can always usefully use such stops - for sightseeing. Not only surrounding rocks, also some nicely exposed buttock passes by in summer heat ... Good luck!
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| gorska koza6. 07. 2010 10:48:04 |
We've all been kids once... and we're still sometimes childish even in our mature years...
But anyway..., since this isn't an article, you could make an effort and write those three sentences legibly.
And believe me, you'd get quite a few more (useful) responses!
PS - don't go on the weekend, so you won't cause crowding (consequently) yourself!
No hard feelings. Regards
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| šodrovec6. 07. 2010 13:16:22 |
Mate07 will try harder next time writing questions, and we will repeat less in our answers to them. That way we'll all progress: childish and less childish, those inclined to humor and the more serious ones.
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| planika506. 07. 2010 13:49:26 |
I'm interested if anyone has info on conditions of the route: Vrata-Luknja-Plemenice-Triglav.
Thanks.
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| IgorZlodej6. 07. 2010 14:49:00 |
At this moment the entire mentioned route is wet, because a strong thunderstorm hit the area just one hour ago. I assume there was also sleet on Triglav, but that's just an assumption. Otherwise, I don't know what conditions could be, we've all been up there and noticed no rockfalls, no torn cables, no missing pitons. What exactly do you want to know. The route itself is described in guidebooks and it would be pointless to describe it here. On ZTP there are surely still some snow patches, also in the notch there's still some snow, which shouldn't cause any problems to those heading to Triglav. Maybe it would be good to turn to page 8 or 7 and a lot would be clear. Maybe it wouldn't hurt if admin prepared instructions for using the hribi.net portal and especially how to view the "forum-conditions" topic, then maybe someone not very skilled at this would manage better.
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| sla6. 07. 2010 15:04:39 |
Igor - how can you give such bad info?!?! How am I supposed to know what ZTP means?!?! I've never heard of Western Triglav Plateau in my life...
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| heinz6. 07. 2010 17:21:59 |
sla you're here too to give info (if you have it of course), but obviously you don't; that's why yours are so much worse than Igor's!
Be grateful to him for giving them to you (us) all the time.
On this portal I haven't seen yet them giving him advice because he would ask us about conditions...
This Slovenian sloppiness is really stubborn, tough thing. We can't shake it off at all, since many don't even try. Or they don't know what they're doing. Nevertheless, it's morally highly questionable - unacceptable trait.
Sla,..sad!
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| planika506. 07. 2010 18:10:06 |
Yes dear Igor Thief if this answer is meant for Planika50, it refers to current conditions, of course, which aren't in guidebooks. You are a real Thief. I thought people on hribi portal are mountaineers at heart too, but I see sometimes very snarky answers.
We're here to write to each other and help with advice. Where did the good hrib folk go.
If the answer wasn't meant for me, I apologize.
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| jprim6. 07. 2010 19:13:17 |
Well heinz, you're here, almost alone in that bag you're talking about. Remember the debate about Stol and helmet, what was your comment to me ... if you forgot, read it.
And when I meant well, that it's good to have a helmet with you, since it sometimes protects from injuries in a fall, you ironically concluded, then I should have it also for shopping.
Do you recognize yourself ... or aren't your comments also a bit ironic.
Regards!
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| heinz6. 07. 2010 19:22:57 |
What, have you women ganged up on a guy, a mountaineer and alpinist, who really only, but REALLY ONLY, wants and does good for everyone?! You all got nicely answered, but it wasn't even to your liking, let alone that you'd culturally - or mountaineer-style thank! It only bothered you that you got more than the answer you expected. For what doesn't suit you, you insult him, but what directly answers about the conditions you're asking for, you nicely IGNORE..
Maybe some of us will think about Igor's advice and justified rebukes only too late, unfortunately! God forbid!
If you were able to understand and accept all he wrote, maybe real MOUNTAINEER WOMEN could develop from you someday!
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| pikec16. 07. 2010 19:25:00 |
Slovenians, Slovenians, oh boy.
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| jprim6. 07. 2010 19:41:51 |
I really don't know why you're getting so upset, I just told you my opinion which was meant for you, and look how many insults you wrote in your comment...
I'm not angry, you're wagging your tail and tongue.
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| heinz6. 07. 2010 19:45:37 |
jprim; el rocco- amateur mountaineer answered you - you definitely don't need a helmet for the Žirovnica path to Stol. But it bothered you that I rejected your claim to the asker that he needs it (helmet). It hurt you that I interfered. And then (in another comment) I was ironic too? OK. Sorry!
Little guy, aren't we that small? Little Slovenians?!
I consider myself Slovenian.
Well, some even consider themselves "little Slovenians".
Little guy, no hard feelings!
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| heinz6. 07. 2010 19:49:53 |
jprim, the order bothers you a bit. No problem..
But I didn't comment to you. And we're back.. got it?
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| jprim6. 07. 2010 19:51:45 |
Then you should have written this a bit differently.
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| nata246. 07. 2010 21:06:34 |
I don't even dare to ask after reading everything written above, but I'll do it anyway. On Saturday I plan to go to Triglav via Tominšek's path and back over Prag. Is there still any snow on the path, because otherwise I'd rather postpone it for a week.
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| GITA6. 07. 2010 21:34:31 |
Planika50, I see you probably don't have an answer yet... Let me help you a bit, because after checking your "profile" I see that you've announced yourself here for the first time (at least under this name). 5 days ago "mountain goat" wrote in this same thread - page 7 - maybe it will be page 6 after my post (quote):
"Ascent over Plemenice is nice, fixed protections are ok. On ZTP we took a longer break by melting snow and cooking Mountaineer's soup (on multi-day trip gas stove is always "mandatory" part of equipment). Ice axe is definitely welcome over Triglav Notch, further to the summit it's dry."
Personally I think this is a good enough description of current conditions. In the future though - if you rely on the forum, it's useful to skim the latest posts, not just those right on the last page.
To me personally, this daily repetition of the same questions on the forum is literally disrespectful to those who took the trouble to describe those same conditions and documented them with photos maybe a day or a few days ago....As if they were writing for themselves....And these same ones who ask these questions without reading a few latest posts, then accuse arrogance and rudeness to those who regularly describe conditions for other forum visitors. Sad. But no hard feelings.
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