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viharnik27. 04. 2011 20:40:36
Igor great job executing ascent to Father in tough conditions!.Good no worse happened at collapse in couloir.
Roof of Aljaž tower would be good to clear and in summer put at least warning protective sign testifying to Slovenia's historical monument, written in several languages.Lp!
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marchy27. 04. 2011 20:50:15
Igor congrats on today's tour, really nothing to say, you are the king, continue wishing you safe steps and to keep sharing your experiences with us ordinary mortals (who can only dream of such tours), safe !!! nasmeh
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kungočan27. 04. 2011 21:16:15
Igor, congrats for such an ascent and really nice pics.
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kaveljc27. 04. 2011 22:05:03
Igor congrats!!! Kingly!
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otiv27. 04. 2011 22:12:51
For such mountaineers, even flowers bloom in winter. Bravo Igor and keep it up, good luck!!
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Kozorog28. 04. 2011 00:06:16
Igor congratulations! For such an ascent it's not enough just the will but also many other things!!!
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skalaš7028. 04. 2011 00:45:29
Bravo Igor, you're doing well and you're taut like an unyielding mountain string... take care and safe steps..
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iskalec28. 04. 2011 07:36:06
Regarding Viharnik's proposal about setting up an information board that would tell
about the historical monument at Aljaž Tower, it would really be smart to think about it. Triglav summit visitors would thus get info right there about who built the tower, when and why.
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iskalec28. 04. 2011 07:43:47
.... and what is most important, that it's a protected cultural monument.
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tisa28. 04. 2011 21:07:55
Igor, also from my side all congratulations!! Good luck and safe further on.
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krasovc28. 04. 2011 21:28:01

iskalec writes..
28.4.2011<< Regarding Viharnik's proposal about setting up an information board that would tell
about the historical monument at Aljaž Tower, it would really be smart to think about it. Triglav summit visitors would thus get info right there about who built the tower, when and why. >>
..Well, do you think that would help? Maybe negatively, not positively, in my opinion. To the one who did it before, others will join. I could bet on that.
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viharnik28. 04. 2011 22:02:00
Quite likely and I think so too, that the arrogant culprits were foreigners. Hard to imagine that conscious Slovenes by leaning on the roof with their weight and knowing it's a first-class national monument would cause damage. I doubt our citizens haven't heard of Jakob Aljaž and his efforts to preserve the Slovenian nation under the then impartial Austro-Hungarian rule. I think everyone has at least basic manners and education so that such arrogant and haughty nonsense doesn't occur to them. Of course, if the monument were somehow explained with a board, maybe on the tower itself, the approach to possible desecration by the perpetrator would be directly warned!. But I doubt Kočevje Bears were rolling up there, let alone Yetis.
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ljubitelj gora28. 04. 2011 22:23:09
...and the board should be at the height of the year on the tower, in summer no one can climb to the top anyway, in winter only the cap is visible.

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bari29. 04. 2011 07:18:43
Viharnik, you really are a big optimist. Three quarters of Slovenes (or even more) who ever stood at the Tower have no clue what and why it's up there. They wouldn't know who built it either if it didn't say so on it.

And Slovenes almost certainly walked on it!

In the future nothing will be better, with a board on the Tower or without. We just don't know how to respect our heritage. zavijanje z očmi
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tisa29. 04. 2011 10:57:18
Bari, if Viharnik is a great optimist, then you are a great pessimist. How can you be so sure that only Slovenes walked on it? I am convinced that the majority are such mountaineers who do it truly from the heart and who greatly respect Aljaž and his attachment and belonging to his homeland and who realize, when they stand on the very summit, what Triglav means to all of us. Unfortunately, there are also those who go to the mountains who have no relation to anything, not just to nature, whether foreigners or Slovenes.
I join the proposal regarding the information plaque on the Tower itself, which should be at the height of the year. Lp

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IgorZlodej29. 04. 2011 11:27:16
First, thanks to everyone for the congratulations. Ascent in winter conditions and in winter to Triglav is nothing special for me and I've done over 100 of them, may it not sound like boasting, although I know some are just waiting for thatmrk pogled. What means something to whom and what not is an individual matter, to the one who has never been up there probably nothing and to the one who doesn't know its history also nothing. Anyway, a lot has already been written and said about the tower. For long decades it was more a shame than a pride to anyone. Since despite public initiatives no one moved, the "Friends of Triglav" took the "tower" into "their hands", restored it to the best of their abilities and lo and behold, immediately a certain interest appeared from PZS or some individual to take it as the best exhibit to the museum to attract visitors like a magnet and that despite it having been nationalized years before and declared a cultural monument, where among other things the regulation states that it shall not be moved. PZS, to which Aljaž supposedly donated the land, I don't know if also the tower, didn't care about it for many years, nor did its patron, Triglav insurance company care much, although Triglav summit is still in its logo today, and the state is usually a bad manager in such matters anyway. True, cultural monuments are usually also marked and the competent ministry could have done that long ago and would have if it were somewhere in the valley, but since it's at the highest point of our country it's obviously too much burden for them, it wouldn't be wrong if done properly. PT since the restoration also takes care that every sticker disappears from the tower, even those from various PDs and every inscription and whoever doesn't believe can check anytime, as the tower is completely clean regarding stickers and inscriptions. Regarding the damage done, the injured party can file a proposal for prosecution, but the question arises who is the injured party at all, is it the state that nationalized it and declared it a cultural monument or PZS to which Aljaž supposedly donated the tower.
As for the conditions for ascent to dad these days, they are not the best. A few cm of snow fell, temperatures are high, old snow breaks through here and there, the path is still snowy, in the traverses from Kredarica direction under the new snow there are also ice traps hidden, weather won't be the best, so carefully and safely if anyone heads up.
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heinz29. 04. 2011 15:28:25
one would think it's sabotage... with a specific purpose.
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starakapa29. 04. 2011 16:13:06
jezen
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morbegna29. 04. 2011 16:13:50
Well the main protagonist will unmask those vandals (I think he's already on their trail!), since he's a policeman after all.
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alpin29. 04. 2011 20:57:52
Congratulations Igor also from me. You really liven up the portal with exceptional ascents, even on days when it's almost impossible to achieve what you achieve. Happy steps further and hope we meet in person sometime.!!nasmeh
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