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| Wine13. 03. 2014 08:42:44 |
and who knows what the conditions are like in Zeleniška gully to Begunjščica? 
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| Duco13. 03. 2014 13:55:30 |
@Wine. Don't know about Zeleniško, but yesterday I was at the entrance to Rožičeva, which my buddy recently climbed too. There's tons of snow, so the jumps should almost be filled in. But suggest really early start, yesterday at Ljubelj it was already 5 degrees at 6am!
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| Wine13. 03. 2014 15:31:52 |
thanks! if we climb, we'll head to the route around seven...
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| garmont13. 03. 2014 17:53:42 |
Today up Centralna, descent Šentanski plaz. Lots of visitors, as if Sunday or some other day off.
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| janez.novak13. 03. 2014 22:58:00 |
What are the conditions on Šentanc - I mean for ascent, has it all slid already?
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| garmont14. 03. 2014 05:32:16 |
Some debris at the top. Otherwise, early hour, golden hour.
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| sodnick14. 03. 2014 07:26:34 |
Yesterday my buddy and I went up late afternoon. Ascent via Y, back via Šentanc. Also in the afternoon quite a few visitors. Just a warning that on top along the ridge (from top to Šentanc) a big crack (like a crevasse) has formed and you can fall in easily. On some parts no bottom is visible, so deep. If you fall in, it could be troublesome. Obviously the south side is collapsing fast, tons of snow. Buddy fell waist-deep, it was covered by snow...
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| robter14. 03. 2014 15:34:10 |
I too stepped with one foot inside today and barely managed to pull myself out. The crack is at least 50 m long and at least 3 m deep. One day it will slide down in an avalanche.
I only photographed from below.
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| sodnick14. 03. 2014 15:49:47 |
I just don't know if the south side will slide, the opast or nothing and the south side is settling more than the north....
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| jurelicen14. 03. 2014 16:12:14 |
I'm curious if anyone has info on the length and difficulty grade of the Jesenska route in Begunjska vrtača or Begunjščica 
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| robter14. 03. 2014 16:36:22 |
See the guidebook M.Zupan: Begunjščica.
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| Keko14. 03. 2014 17:20:45 |
III+/2, 450 M
60/40, UIAA 5/3
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| jurelicen14. 03. 2014 17:56:55 |
Robter, I don't have the guidebook, otherwise I wouldn't ask.
Keko, thanks.
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| tagec14. 03. 2014 18:10:25 |
Today again lots of people at Zelenica, with Nina we turn into Y, tracks to the top made, we use right exit, just before exit we observe 2 skiers who super skied the left branch, behind them snowboarder, guys handle it, but not the group, 10min later same left branch, skier slips right away, hangs on ice axe, doesn't know self-arrest, then hand slips from loop and miraculously stops 10m lower, ice axe stays up, female snowboarder rescues it and slips... unbelievable!!! Thought rescue was needed, but somehow they managed to get down!! We exit to ridge and watch descending chaos, because that wasn't skiing! With alpinists on ridge we comment a bit on situation, this time ends happily... Don't like criticizing on forum, but this today was textbook what not to do, i.e. what experiences are!! On top quite a few people, I ski down about 300m Smokovski, crazy good around 12h, released nicely, go back up and ski central which wasn't so pleasant, shook pretty good, lower part much better... Another nice day spent in mountains..
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| janez.novak14. 03. 2014 19:14:14 |
robter, is the ledge in the picture above Šentanec? Is the crack before Šentanec (viewed from the summit direction), is it visible? I'm wondering if the snow on the summit is hard in the morning?
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| robter14. 03. 2014 19:25:51 |
The ledge is above Šentanec.
The crack is more on the right side of the picture. It is visible when you get to the top, ca. 2 m from the edge.
Maybe someone photographed it, let them post it here on the forum.
I wouldn't know what the snow is like in the morning. In the couloirs it's excellent in the morning. When I was returning at 12h it was pretty south-facing.
In these conditions the saying "Early hour, golden hour" applies.
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| gj15. 03. 2014 01:34:19 |
where is night already
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| _sandra_15. 03. 2014 13:21:24 |
@robter: we saw the crack today yeah..
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