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| VanSims3. 04. 2013 15:38:06 |
Yes sir markun!
Nothing is ever right for you, how can whiners bother you. You really don't like people.
Best to stop following forums, the internet at all or lock yourself in four walls and you'll have peace at home if no one gets on your nerves.
I must say I never had problems with whiners on any forum.
But sometimes provocateurs and trolls like you put me in a bad mood.
Look around a bit, the world doesn't revolve only around you.
LP
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| Becar3. 04. 2013 16:17:44 |
Sorry, but a dog really doesn't belong in a mountain hut or in the kitchen. I have a dog myself, but out of consideration for others I would never do such a thing. I've already experienced that barking somewhere where you can't even talk, not to mention the hygienic minimum in the kitchen, harassing guests etc.
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| herman83. 04. 2013 16:30:26 |
Just now I spotted on the internet that Beli is apparently really leaving. They're looking for a new hut keeper. Beli probably got tired of VanSims and similar impatient folks. Anyway, I'll miss Belita and the dog too, I always gave him a piece of salami and he already knew me well. Good luck Beli, if you change your mind, all the better.
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| andre1003. 04. 2013 16:48:42 |
No sadness for Beli, he can go for cappuccino to the sea, or Coca-Cola
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| Zebdi3. 04. 2013 17:00:51 |
I also hope Beli stays up there.. if Jure were there too, it would be optimal 
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| skalaš703. 04. 2013 17:03:12 |
That's how you talk "Zebdi"!!!
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| VanSims3. 04. 2013 20:31:46 |
@herman8: Enlighten me what I should do to be patient? Should I say, let loose that aggressive dog a bit among us patient guests and watch, grin and enjoy? Then I'd be patient? If I just sit passively and wait for him to let it go (and I don't complain at all when he does because I don't argue with primitives) then I'm impatient?
Is it impatient that I avoid his hut? So there's one less guest over whom he can vent his frustrations and recharge his batteries?
And I'd gladly oblige him so he doesn't suffer my great impatience when I allow myself to feel uncomfortable. With psychopathic dog owners, one really doesn't know what to do anymore.
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| geppo3. 04. 2013 21:17:46 |
I've been hiking in the mountains for over 30 years, both here and abroad. But I can't describe anything special about any hut or keeper.
At Okrešelj, I don't even know how many times I've been there so far?? I've been there at all seasons and times, morning, afternoon, evening, night...
Drank a beer, water and back to the valley...
Never noticed anything annoying so far (just crowds on Sundays and holidays...).
Keepers have changed in this period...???
I don't go to the mountains because of huts or keepers. Huts are just part of the experience on the way and sometimes I stop, sometimes not. I don't linger long in huts and don't observe what's happening there. Visiting a hut isn't conditioned by the hut or the keeper serving there.
I remember the current keeper only by his unusual hat - in winter, music - in winter (that genre was unusual for us at those altitudes), cigarette he usually had between his fingers... that's all!! No special remarks about the Okrešelj hut, nor about the current keeper. In winter, sanitary facilities are a problem - but that's how it is...
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| gorica1003. 04. 2013 22:03:03 |
Nice greeting.
Since talk is about the hut keeper, I'm wondering if anyone knows if the new keeper team has been selected? How many people were at the hut besides the keeper? I'm looking for work and they might need someone for kitchen help, serving.  I'll be grateful for all info.
lp
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| Wine3. 04. 2013 23:08:16 |
it was great for me to listen to Peppers at 1400m
there are few such "relax" hut keepers
the team at Okrešelj was awesome!
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| SunBurned3. 04. 2013 23:20:20 |
Seriously rhcp in the mountains?
Oh man, what did I miss.
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| skalaš703. 04. 2013 23:47:18 |
Belli and Jure always took care of good music and atmosphere, especially with old ROCK and more could be found!
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| mandela4. 04. 2013 01:18:40 |
Well, here's my opinion too...
I've been to many huts already, but what I experienced last year at Okrešelj, I haven't experienced it anywhere in Slovenia yet...
First a pleasant greeting with a full bowl of laughter and jokes, then a shot at the keeper's expense, then he himself sits down and we chatted late into the night...hats off
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| VanSims4. 04. 2013 09:27:33 |
>I loved listening to Peppers at 1400m
>Belli and Jure always took care of good music and atmosphere, especially with old ROCK and more could be found!
Well, I count that as a plus for them!
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| dprapr4. 04. 2013 09:42:09 |
@geppo, well written!
I just came from the hairdresser, where a cat came rubbing against my seat while I was waiting to be served. And I didn't get upset at all, even though I don't like cats in the apartment.
What I want to say - let's be patient with people and also with animals, even if they are sometimes unwanted or not sympathetic to us.
I remember that years ago the keeper at Klemenča jama had a pig too, which walked around there. It was a real addition to the "offer"!
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| VanSims4. 04. 2013 11:25:31 |
The little piglet I met on the way to Primož really nicely spiced up my trip. It got along well with one hiker's doggie and sniffed each other. The lady coming down with her highland terrier tied it up just in time so it didn't rush at her.
I also gave half a slice of my mortadella to the meowing cat in front of Rifuggio Alavena in Liguria when it looked at it so pleadingly.
The friendly little dog, a spaniel at Dom pod Storžičem, didn't bother me either. When I was returning, the keeper even stopped it from approaching me although we already knew each other and it would probably just sniff me. Fair, friendly and unobtrusive to guests!
I wrote about all this on this portal in descriptions of my trips and in general animals spice up every trip for me.
Completely different story if the little dog aggressively and barking rushes out of the hut into the crowd and starts lunging at guests, sniffing them and harassing them. Twice out of three visits to Koča na Okrešlju this happened, the fourth time I already avoided it in a wide arc from the path junction (Kamniško, Savinjsko sedlo) across the meadow and past the winter bivouac, and for my traditional feast after the tour I went to Luče instead.
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| mosovnik4. 04. 2013 15:25:58 |
You can see that conditions in the high mountains are not yet "ready", so you have time for such useless discussions. Conditions will settle and rather think about how after strenuous and successfully completed tours you will stop at the hut and rest your tired limbs and quench your thirst and satisfy possible hunger.
Whichever team it will be, it will surely try to satisfy our needs, after "some time" we will anyway talk again which one was better. Everything is transient for us mortals, only the mountains remain and beckon:
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| joža x4. 04. 2013 19:20:34 |
Even now it makes me puke when I remember the beans and warm beer from Okrešelj that they served us last summer when my buddy and I were returning from Planjava. And it was expensive too.
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| strelec19544. 04. 2013 21:36:58 |
I haven't been to the hut at Okrešelj yet, but I'd like to comment on huts in our mountains. Thirty years ago the huts were "real huts" everyone was welcome even if everything he ate and drank he mostly brought in his backpack.
Keepers usually knew all the nearby mountains and approaching weather conditions well, but today they are mainly inns striving only for profit, that's the way times are, money rules the world so no blame on them. Once huts were financed quite differently than today.
Otherwise I have no bad experiences with huts and service as I do most of my wanderings
out of season so I know winter rooms better, except Kredarica where on winter tours I always felt pleasant and was always nicely served by our weather observers.
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| Daaam4. 04. 2013 21:48:23 |
Here I would like to take issue a bit with the above post.. I admit I'm too young and don't know from my own experience how it was thirty years ago in huts, but I know that I have read quite a number of "old" books on mountaineering topics and I must say that I often come across the problem of "mountain inns" and how everyone was put in the corner when some directors/politicians appeared...and that more than thirty years ago...of course this doesn't hold for all huts. I think that even now it mostly depends on the keeper.(except prices set by PD) They already had problems with them or were very satisfied even in pre-war times and that's how we have the current situation.. Basically I'm also satisfied with the keepers, but I have a couple of huts on my blacklist that I avoid..
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