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| lynx17. 08. 2011 21:08:11 |
~2500€ is a lot of money to distribute on useful sales cargo.
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| šalamala18. 08. 2011 10:23:22 |
I also have to praise the keeper at POŠTARSKI DOM regarding their friendliness and good food. Prices didn't seem excessive to me, otherwise you're happy to give (at least me), if you're in a hut where you feel good, even an extra coin!
I was pleasantly surprised by the following fact, that in POGAČNIKOV DOM NA KRIŽIH PODIH and in ZASAVSKA KOČA NA PREHODAVCIH the keeper teams are young - they were super company  (I'm 24 myself) and service was fine too!
@joža x: that "considering what it offers" stung me a bit, so I said I'd write: It's true that on many huts they could wash sheets more often or offer something else besides stews (doesn't apply to Dom Klementa Juga, as I haven't been there yet) otherwise on a hut I don't expect such luxury as in hotel, especially at higher ones. Anyway to my taste Portorož doesn't reach the knees of our Lepena and surroundings. But maybe I'll think differently about "what they offer" when I have kids once. It's true that hotels usually have discounts or free stay for certain age (number) of child(ren)  ... huts could have that too...
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| skalar5018. 08. 2011 19:51:31 |
some fresh holiday experiences with Austrian huts between Bad Gastein and Kitzbühel: we really should send someone from Slovenian hut keepers on some study trip across the border...
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| joža x19. 08. 2011 18:19:34 |
Shalamala, Lepena is also nicer to me than Portorož, under that "depending on what it offers" I wrote what someone offers for 80 euros a day (in Lepena we just slept) and it has nothing to do with food. I also don't look for luxury in P.l. huts, but if I didn't get it, why do I have to pay for it. Because they obviously charge for it according to my comparison. I have no problem sleeping on the floor with a cushion and blanket or in dorms and I've done that many times in our mountains, but the price should match. Or maybe in p.l. huts it's just some deal (rip-off) anymore, because it has nothing to do with the mission of p.l. homes anymore.....
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| VanSims24. 08. 2011 22:23:32 |
Also on this year's mostly mountaineering holiday abroad, the difference between huts here and there showed up.
Overnighting in Austria was in huts where I looked at price lists (for non-AV members of course) around 20 EUR in dorms. As for food and drink prices, they are even higher there. But we're in capitalism: take it or leave it. Everyone can bring their own.
A separate chapter is of course knowledge of the surroundings and giving mountaineering advice. When I asked in pension Seiser Toni under Hohe Wand how to get to Wagnersteig, the lady nicely opened a map with all paths drawn in and explained friendly.
Not like here at Staničev dom:
Me: "Good day, can you please tell me if there are still any snow patches on the way to Kredarica?"
Hutkeeper: "What?"
Me: "If there are still any snow patches on the way to Kredarica?"
Hutkeeper: "What if there are?"
Me: "Is there still any snow on the way to Kredarica?"
Hutkeeper: "Oh, there shouldn't be anymore!"
Well then two guys sitting in front of the hut told me there's still snow on the direct path and better go via Rž.
Disaster!
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| aleš438. 09. 2011 14:33:50 |
My opinion is that prices in Slovenian mountains are too high compared to what's offered.
It hurts me even more because you can't say it out loud.
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| Žiga228. 09. 2011 14:50:59 |
@VanSims
What you wrote has a concrete difference; any hut keeper can open a map for you, but it's a bit different to ask and talk about current conditions that change from day to day.
In principle, hut keepers will avoid questions about conditions, paths and weather. Why;
First of all they are hut keepers, not guides of mountain paths. They don't walk around all day but are more or less in the hut where they serve hikers.
Second, you never know what kind of fool - tourist - calls you (especially these days); you might tell him the approach is ok, that there PROBABLY are no snow patches (yes, in mountains we often speak in conditional ), then an accident happens (slip, broken leg, sprain, etc.). And what's the epilogue? "Yeah the hut keeper told me there are no snow patches". And there, all blame falls on the hut keeper. Who is then so dumb to invite the devil on themselves?
Best to inquire about conditions here (on the forum), even better rely on your own common sense - if there's a chance of snow patches, of course pack ice axe and crampons.
Immature and irresponsible to me is shifting all conditions and (own) lack of knowledge onto hut keepers and bitching about them, who are after all just people like us, not some alpine know-it-alls. They're not there to wipe hikers' asses and watch over them, they're there exactly only - hut keepers. To heat you barley soup and give a blanket for the night, I expect no more from them.
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| jany19808. 09. 2011 15:26:55 |
Instead of smart-talking on forums....
...let's talk about something nice on the paths themselves
On the web anyone can be smart....
...somewhere above 2000m couch wisdom doesn't help There we're left to common sense and physical ability
See you above 2000.... ...there's no sin there - but here there are plenty 
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| turbo8. 09. 2011 16:00:30 |
Besides service, friendly attitude to guests, care for order and discipline in the hut, the hut keeper must or should also know:
.know the mountains around
-know the paths around
-know conditions on nearby paths
-know how to advise (based on guests' experience suggest either harder or easier path, due to lacking equipment perhaps advise against the tour, etc.)
-check weather forecast twice a day and post it visibly
Hut keeper is not or shouldn't be an innkeeper who only looks at his pocket.
Everything above is self-evident abroad. Not to mention hut reservations, house rules and such.
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| pohodnik018. 09. 2011 17:08:14 |
Seems you're not much in the mountains. In Slovenian mountains many hut keepers also advise you and explain everything. In mountains you don't have innkeepers, what they get they have to damn well earn. Abroad not every hut keeper knows how to advise either. I wish such hut keepers and shepherds in shepherd huts continue to "thrive" in our mountains. LP
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| turbo8. 09. 2011 17:16:33 |
Yeah, probably I'm really only a little in the mountains. Around 40 winter tours and somewhere between 60 to 70 summer ones. In winter couloirs, approaches and touring ski descents, in summer off-trail and easy climbs. And yes, about ten times a year I overnight in a hut. But not here, abroad yes. Experiences not too many, just close to 40 years. And because of all that, here huts mostly from outside, abroad mostly from inside. Abroad I haven't come across them not being able to provide current info. Always everything checks out. Here though . . . . quite a few bad experiences and so no more desire to check how it is now. Others can tell me, so . . .
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| VanSims8. 09. 2011 17:44:42 |
Yes, that's why the hut keeper at Giessener Hütte last Saturday as soon as he saw me sitting outside in the morning asked if I'm going to Hochalmspitze (most go there from there). I told him to Säuleck (few go to that mountain from there because it's quite nasty path as I found out myself).
I had only helmet and backpack with me which wouldn't suffice for Hochalmspitze at all. Would need full gear and probably crampons and ice axe too.
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| facko8. 09. 2011 21:24:05 |
@VanSims: to those areas no way without "ice axe" and "crampons" regardless of season. That snowfield under "Steinermandl Scharte" stands quite upright 
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| skalar5015. 09. 2011 12:39:23 |
Of course strictly subjective but anyway: by my humble estimate perhaps it's time for Prešeren Hut at Stol to get new keepers... who will, to put it mildly, keep pace with the times...
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| keber115. 09. 2011 15:53:14 |
Don't know why, food is excellent, and from the keeper I learned the easiest path to the Austrian side, which I haven't heard mentioned on this portal yet.
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| Borut G.15. 09. 2011 16:07:45 |
We praise the staff of Pogačnik Home at Kriški Podi, with manager Katarina at the head. For the weekend we were guests of Pogačnik Home with Mountaineering Section Preddvor. Really SUPER TEAM ensured we all had a great time, which given the age structure from just over 20 to well over 70 says it all!!! Thanks again for WONDERFUL WEEKEND!
PS Preddvor
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| JusAvgustin15. 09. 2011 16:27:05 |
Long live PD Radovljica...
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| skalar5016. 09. 2011 11:03:10 |
Yeah, and not only Radovljica... more than a few could be found in some "Slovenian hut keeper story"..
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| Parkeljc25. 09. 2011 10:57:23 |
I can't help but "slam" the offer at Vodnikov dom. Yesterday, 24.9.2011 we with the group ordered JOTA (as I know, jota is a dish with cabbage and beans, and more...). For 5 euros per portion, we got bean soup that was barely like jota. In the plate I counted 2 beans, others one each, cabbage maybe two full spoons. I understand it was 19.00 and maybe everything was short (Hello????), but they could say something as excuse,... But what excuse! Not at all! Since darkness caught us on the way to valley at Rudno polje, we planned to refuel and sleep on shared bunks as rooms were full, but after "dinner" we all agreed god forbid to get similar quality breakfast in morning. So we went down with headlamps without hesitation and in first open fast food refueled with authentic southern food for 3 euros per portion.
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| viharnik25. 09. 2011 11:46:18 |
Jota used to be famous for good preparation when the older keeper was still at the Koča. Unfortunately it confirms often that the conscience of our mountaineering societies managing the huts is still only about earnings. Abroad tradition and custom is maximum commitment to every guest crossing the hut threshold. Then settling, just entry in guest book and only after departure the line in book and payment. There they realize relationships and service and pleasant coexistence come first and hikers return gladly. With us you feel from season start keepers (not all) just "set up" the net with their "offer", then whatever gets caught till autumn when huts close. Such mission unfortunately has only short time allotted.
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