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Jalovec

matic418. 07. 2011 11:41:48

Yesterday I did a circular tour Tamar-Kotovo sedlo-Jalovec-škrbina-Tamar. The path is mostly dry. The snowfield above the ozebnik to Goličica can be bypassed. Only the snowfield below the škrbina requires an ice axe and crampons.

IgorZlodej21. 07. 2011 20:40:46

A classic to Jalovec. Flori in Zapodnu, hunting hut, Mali kot, Goličica, Jezerca, summit and down to Zvetišče under Špička, and back to Flori. Today gorgeous, mountain beautiful, conditions great.

at the hunting lodge, they made some detour again, so the confusion will be even greater

barely get warmed up a bit, and it's already over

path through Ozebnik to Tamar still closed

Špiček invites to the hut's shelter for good strudel and ...

panda21. 07. 2011 21:01:47

I'm missing a photo of Mangart, the nearest big neighbor?! zavijanje z očmi

Bojan_A22. 07. 2011 19:38:49

Great photos, Igor! You have ZS:

panda22. 07. 2011 20:56:05

IgorZ: thanks. Not that I would stumble, but the closest neighbor deserves a published photo. nasmeh

panda22. 07. 2011 20:57:08

IgorZ: thanks. Not that I would stumble, but the closest neighbor deserves a published photo. nasmeh

IgorZlodej22. 07. 2011 21:31:50

@Bojan, waiting for ZS, @panda, you're right, first neighbor is first after all, so I added it right away.

jaz22. 07. 2011 21:39:06

Just a bit more till jubilee. Cheers!

You can see there are no sheep this year

Five years have passed since the death of colleague Janez

one can see who reigns over Tamar valley

mukica23. 07. 2011 10:59:29

Nice, nice pictures and even nicer tour. Hope I will climb Jalovec someday. zmeden

and Škrlatica. I have awe for both, desire though nasmeh

Until then when I maybe succeed I will follow you... mežikanje

joža x23. 07. 2011 11:27:19

I, first pic ... wonder of nature, shame that we are prepared to sacrifice so little for preserving the pristine mountain world. I was on Jalovec 4 years ago on descent thunderstorm caught us and health problems in group, so on this hike I don't have... Definitely the most demanding mountain in Slovenian pp.

urbancek23. 07. 2011 20:26:32

Every mountain can be more or less demanding... Often it's like that, that a large part of the difficulty is added by weather conditions... So, first weather, then everything else...

I agree with what's written, I hope to stand on top soon... Cheers! nasmeh

IgorZlodej24. 07. 2011 07:57:08

I wouldn't fully agree with urbancek regarding weather conditions. Because in bad weather we usually don't go anyway, except rare exceptions, who then occasionally have something go wrong and need to go meet them. Weather conditions as such don't affect the difficulty of the approach to the mountain, assuming conditions are ideal, i.e. dry rock and in winter good snow conditions. Very annoying at least to me is the wind, which has also already pushed someone off the ridge or simply flipped them over, followed by a slip, at least in winter usually to death. To Janez on @jaz's picture of course this couldn't happen, but it's a nice memory of meetings with him. If Jalovec is the most demanding mountain I wouldn't know, I've been up there over 50 times, about 10 times also in winter and winter conditions and it was always mainly nice, never particularly difficult, maybe also because weather conditions didn't bother me.

urbancek24. 07. 2011 08:44:47

@IgorZlodej: I wrote that assuming conditions are not ideal, which I hope is logical to everyone nasmeh

I agree, wind is on some ascents a very dangerous thing... And also the difficulty of traversing some slope or incline can be different even in nice weather just if there's a lot of moisture in the air... We will use more energy for the ascent... physiology... Because often it's like that that we make the tour difficult or easy ourselves... If we are on the edge with strength the tour of course suddenly becomes very difficult...

Best regards!

IgorZlodej24. 07. 2011 10:36:46

It's a bit off-topic, but I didn't start it. It's logical to go to the mountains in as ideal conditions as possible, so discussing non-ideal conditions misses the point. We should never allow ourselves to reach the limit of our strength on a tour. That's called lack of psychophysical fitness, the consequence is incapacity, total exhaustion, which consequently leads to an accident. Fear-respect for a mountain can of course be overcome with proper preparation, ultimately also with a guide. Otherwise, it's quite right that Jalovec is what it is.

jaz31. 07. 2011 22:16:42

I visited my friend up there again a bit yesterday. Each time it's different. What peace there was on top, I didn't meet a living soul up and down. But friendly sheep made my early morning nice, which came later this year to Kotovo sedlo and were very happy with my raisins. Already in a few hours towards new challenges. Lp!

For me the most beautiful mountain in the world

otiv1. 08. 2011 07:12:41

Jalovec is like cream on top of a fruit cup, if I write it pastry-chef style in the mountaineering sense. Truly unforgettable "fruit cup"
Good luck to all!

ljubitelj gora2. 08. 2011 17:58:37

Today I first met user @velkavrh, goal Jalovec, up via Škrbina, back towards Kotovo sedlo, snowfield crossing, this time no need under the notch, could go deep below. Path strenuous, crumbling, dangerous, helmet essential. From Jalovec to Kotovo sedlo all crumbly rocks.
Path was okay for me, but too little for adrenaline, how @velkavrh liked it he'll add himself.

Ozebnik is already visible, currently closed

I don't know if it was safe, but we went under the snow down there

when you walk here you trigger rocks, be careful not to hit someone below by accident.

pegs, pegs, pegs, I'll remember these forever.

We are already heading towards Kotovo sedlo,

pitons, fixed protections, pegs and crumbly terrain as well as steep slope, definitely wear a helmet

urbancek2. 08. 2011 18:35:28

Me too today at 9:05 on summit nasmeh

Went variant Flori-Zadnja Trenta - Jalovec (past shelter under Špička, took 3h15min, downhill dawdled a bit, total incl. snacks, photos ca. 7h round trip.
Impressions:
+: great weather, very friendly caretakers under Špička, nice path and views
-: mountain on PZS badge would deserve on mentioned path some pole with path signs (variants, difficulty, altitude etc.), markings and general signs on path could be better... Chains loose in places, pitons illogically placed... e.g. how should a foreigner know where to go at junction where nothing is written... But, it was a beautiful day, no need to list more...

Best regards to all! velik nasmeh

P.S: Wasn't there once a pole on the summit or what was it? velik nasmeh

velkavrh2. 08. 2011 18:45:12

Yes, the old-young combo works great too. We got along really well on today's trip to Jalovec via Jalovška Škrbina. If alone I probably wouldn't have gone. All three of us reached the notch at once. First a foreign hiker scouted the terrain and found that the snow below had melted enough to crawl underneath to the fixed protection on the other side, since ice crossing was too risky. The rest went fine. No shortage of fixed gear all the way to the top. Lots of hikers went up because of ideal weather, only nobody except us three via the notch. Down we returned via Veliki Kot path, which is equally demanding and full of cables and such. There we met hikers going up. Many pitons pulled out, full of scree, some faded markers. The tour thrilled me. I could say it was one of the tougher ones I've climbed so far.